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| Jamason | Dec 14 2011, 05:03 AM Post #1 |
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Cooler was stronger then Freiza.. He stated not by that much but still. And Freiza got a powerboost from his reconsstruction. |
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| + Pyrus | Dec 14 2011, 05:06 AM Post #2 |
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Cooler never said that. He said he was stronger than Freeza, and so did Goku, but never specified how much. Considering Goku got a lot stronger according to Roshi, then Cooler would most definitely whoop Freeza. |
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| Balthazor | Dec 14 2011, 05:29 AM Post #3 |
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I would beat them both very easily,but cooler wins this fairly easily. |
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Dec 15 2011, 08:15 PM Post #4 |
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Mecha Freeza is only a little stronger than Goku Namek. I think Cooler is probably somewhere around Trunks. Not a huge lead but enough to win. |
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Dec 15 2011, 11:25 PM Post #5 |
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Coola rips his brother apart. |
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Dec 15 2011, 11:25 PM Post #6 |
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COH how do you feel these compare Goku M5 , Goku Namek , Yardrat Goku Do you think Goku M5 is above Yardrat? |
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Dec 15 2011, 11:31 PM Post #7 |
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I haven't made a Movie 5 BPs list in ages so I don't really know. I'm stuck between your POV of Coola being "even stronger" than Freeza and the POV of: Final Form Coola - 400,000,000 Kaio-ken x20 Son Goku - 260,000,000 Coola - 120,000,000 Invisible Kaio-ken x10 Son Goku - 130,000,000 Base Son Goku - 13,000,000 |
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Dec 15 2011, 11:36 PM Post #8 |
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Well I don't use invisible Kaioken anymore. I think Base Cooler is probably suggested to be around the 5 million range or somewhere around that, and his transformation is probably the equivilant of Freeza going 100%. Base Cooler being like a stronger Initial True Form Freeza is def implied by the movie... But, this is prior to King Cold and his immense power showing up... Forcing us to disregard the Cooler's feats, as it would be stupid for Cooler to be so much weaker than King Cold. So you gotta go beyond TOEI here, just like how sometimes we go beyond AT. It's just they didn't have good enough info... Even stronger than Freeza doesn't have to mean the gap is exactly tiny, it can be suggested that way though. I don't think it implies a 100x gap though thats for sure... In the end, non canon material sealed the deal for me... M7 = Androids Saga > M6 > M5 and M5 is probably around the same powers as the Yardrat... I think if you doing a completely correlating list, that is a good avenue to go down... |
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Dec 15 2011, 11:41 PM Post #9 |
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Even stronger doesn't have to mean a small gap. Kuririn said SSjinG2 Vegeta was "even stronger" than Initial Second Form Cell and that was an astronomical gap considering SSjin Trunks > FP Second Cell... I think that definitely makes sense, I just really don't like the idea of Base Coola being so insanely low personally. I think the POV that Base Freeza = 50% Freeza and that 100% Freeza is his equivalent of Fifth Form Coola is a nice POV. |
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Dec 15 2011, 11:45 PM Post #10 |
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Oh agreed, that's why I said go beyond TOEI and make Base Cooler around King Cold or stronger anyhow... You going to start that thread on Pojo on what man? Just start it simply... DB Saga Goku W/ Tail Goku W/o Tail ETCETc |
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Dec 15 2011, 11:46 PM Post #11 |
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Sorry I'll get to that now. I'm posting on like three forums at once right now non-stop so I'm getting a bit lagged. |
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Dec 15 2011, 11:50 PM Post #12 |
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And I agree, there's no definitive statement for Even stronger. Although there may have been more emphasis on Even, like this he's EVEN stronger than Freeza, or was it EVEN STRONGER? I don't know, probably looking too much into it... I'm cool with Cooler > Mecha though, although, like I mentioned before, the Androids Saga and correlating movies impose limits on how much so ... But Cooler 200 Mecha 160 Going by Daiz numbers, sounds pretty good to me.. Goku Yardrat and M5 being say 300 million. Sound good? |
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Dec 16 2011, 01:27 AM Post #13 |
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I don't remember any emphasis being placed on any of the words. I agree that's pretty good. I'd personally place M5 above Yardrat since he was stated to have kept training on Earth but to each their own. |
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Dec 16 2011, 02:03 AM Post #14 |
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So why is that a reason for M5 > Yardrat? As long as you leave enough room for M6 to be well ahead of M5 and still well below M7 I think that's good... |
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Dec 16 2011, 02:11 AM Post #15 |
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Yardrat is Son Goku right after he returned to Earth. Movie 5 is Son Goku after having returned to Earth and trained for a while. |
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